Using NLP to Deal With PTSD, Anxiety & Depression

Using NLP to Deal With PTSD, Anxiety & Depression


a couple questions came up in the as in in the echo of my a rant yesterday by it wasn’t even around I think it was
more like a are a college course on the history a bilateral therapies and their use for treating
post-traumatic stress disorder and a and the nature post-traumatic
stress disorder and I why I just want to address those
because I just find this stuff absolutely fasting which is why I I i
wrote a I for actually written two books about
it but the the main one is walking your blues away and I think it’s
one of the most important books I’ve ever written and there are many other good books on
this topic as well not try to pitch my book at you it’s
just that you know writing the book help make me an expert
on the topic and so that’s why I’m gonna tell you you know everything I’m gonna
tell you don’t need to buy the book read but there there are also books on EMDR
which the francine shapiro if I’m remembering
your name correctly invented there came up with an in
trademark in and other kinds a bilateral therapies the the beginning point for this is that
post-traumatic stress disorder PTSD the the the hallmark characteristic a
PTSD is that people remember a past event as if it was today as if it
happened today if a person has that as as a presenting
symptom that is the most significant factor that that says this is actually PTSD and the reason for that is there’s
there’s this party the brain that the film’s that or the hippocampus excuse me I I
was using the wrong word yes there’s inhabit them since the hippocampus the hippocampus that that is a one-day
scratchpad for the brain and it only know it
doesn’t know time it does no past and future and only knows now and so if something happens today whatever happens today I mean I
all everything that’s happening to all abuzz today tonight when we go to
sleep assuming that we don’t take sleeping
pills to prevent RAM sleep in this is one of the reasons
why be regular frequent use a very the more powerful
sleeping pills actually can produce anxiety disorders
and and a you know holes Ranger psychiatric
problems is because you don’t get to process your
day when you when you sleep and also then they also
impair memory long-term memory well short term memory as well on what happens is when you go to sleep
at night is best anybody can tell is that the hippocampus
says okay here’s what happened during the day
and it just dumb says stuff into the brain the thinking brain the whole brain hippocampus is the subtype are the
brainstem and or the lower brain an and the whole
brain says OK how do I make sense out as well puts
this over here to put this over there and and and we experience the says
dreaming and ends the brain sorts information by emotion
rather than by logic and it’s it’s just is all fascinating subset of near
Linguistic Programming NLP and in there that is passed in teach but
it’s beyond the scope of today’s conversation the problem that
produces PTSD comes when the hippocampus experiences when
you when a person experiences something during the day that is so horrible that the that the rest their brain can deal with
it now that’s so horrible is an entirely subjective experience to different people might see a car
accident and one will be absolutely traumatized by it to
the point that they will have post-traumatic stress disorder for years and another person will just say I as a
car accident so it you know whether it’s you know
been the victim of some kind of abuse or whether it’s the the you know having somebody die or
whether it is you know been in war and being shot at
or shooting somebody kill in taking a life of another person been part about other company there are
a group of people that took the lives of other people whatever it may be it is something that
that one individual and some you know more or cognitive
level can handle while they’re asleep and so the hippocampus tries to dump it
with the brain person falls asleep the brain says no
way I’m not taken that you just hang on to it and the next day the person wakes up and the ex the emotions associated with
that experience are just as fresh as they were the day
before and then that night they go to sleep in
a the hippocampus try saddam pick the brains as I am taking it you keep it and the the next day they wake up and
that memory is just as fresh as a was that the day before and that continues day after day after
day for months and then years and that’s post-traumatic stress
disorder so what we’ve learned is over the years is
that one of the ways does not a cure-all this isn’t you know instant this doesn’t work for everybody but it
works a lot for I would say most people what we know is that if you can get a
person to touch the edger that memory not don’t write a digest the entire
thing all at once but touch the edge that memory while they
are engaging in a task that alternately stimulates the left
hemisphere the brain and the right hemisphere the brain and
the way that friends Anton mezmur taught us back in
the 17 seventies in the James Brady in the eighteen thirties when he rename
asthma is a misstep noses and the sigmund freud did up until
1897 you’ll recall my telling you the whole
story about right freud stopped know since yesterday and and not narrates on brought it back
in the nineteen fifties remembers last name yesterday just
popped into my brain and and and not there are some babe you know his work became the basis
of Richard Bandler John grillers work in a very inventing LP that the brought the stuff
forward is that doesn’t necessarily need to be just moving your eyes from side to
side look in a pocket watch that it can be literally walking which
is a bilateral activity reagon left right left right left right if your hands are swinging in their free and there’s a whole lot of other ways to
do it freud used to rob people down the side to their bodies down their arms are
down there chester was a man are alternate sides left right left
right i’ve a friend is writing a book right
now about this kind of therapy where he suggest you just can stand and moved from left to right
foot I’ve been with Native Americans and with Aboriginal people in Africa where dance
scene is basically it’s not anything like
ending in Siena in a dance club in the United States is people standing in very orderly
fashion sometimes in a line and they’re simply movin II from left to right foot left foot to
right foot left foot the right foot stand in place and they do for hours this is bilateral therapy these are
always and and wall engage in as bilateral for in this
bilateral activity you then the person then takes on a
little tiny bit at the memory and takes increasingly larger pieces
other and over a period of time and it can be for some peoples as little as a
half hour for some people it takes days but over
time they process that memory and diminish its intensity in the
hippocampus and move it into the into the cortex into the thinking part
of the brain where that night its able to be processed and stored and the experience had people
tell you the next day or two days later three or four days
there’s a bizarre a week or month later is when you ask them where is that
memory they used to say it’s right here in front and now they say oh it’s but NP behind
means black and white it’s in my past so what you know this this is what I shared
with you yesterday in what I when I learned this I I brought this
book walking your blues away and and the questions that came up our a
couple questions wonders a supply depression or anxiety and I got an answer for that I’ll give
you after the break and the other is can blind people do
this and I can I think given the description
that I just gave about you know how you can even just an in
place move from side to side it should become fairly obvious were
evident that yes by begins as well and so takers you know it doesn’t
doesn’t require eyes really jobs is required activating
Palazzo the brain bright side very close a great night in
show howdy you know that the principal ways the
post-traumatic stress disorder is dealt with it the goal of all other various
therapies is to incrementally take a memory that the
that the hippocampus can’t get rid of because the rest the brain
won’t take it and get it out hippocampus and the two
principal ways that this is done our number one with bilateral therapies like
EMDR others that I describe to you before the
break and the second one is giving people drugs that nom nom enough that they can they
can process the stuff without freaking out is a typically the selective serotonin
reuptake inhibitors or bends and I as a pain drugs like
valium the SSRI’s are things like prozac they get people these drugs and then
under the influence of the drug they do psychotherapy where they revisit
the memory you know you know but now they’re they’re basically now I’m just to the
point that they can process and both of these techniques demonstrate
some success in fact both these techniques to
demonstrate a firm on a success but it’s got it’s got to be dealt with with regard to depression and anxiety
disorders deeper and I write about this in why
read about what your blues away also wrote about it in healing a TD which is
really originally I wrote this as a book on
your linguistic programming and so it’s like a whole bunch different
NLP techniques I and by publishers said nobody wants to
read a book about NLP but you’ve got a couple bestsellers time magazine I just
a story about my my first book on a TD he said you know
everybody wants nobody’d anyone hear about it from you so I rewrite this book you talking about
how you can use these are not be techniques to to help people who have been wounded by
growing up having a TD in a public school system and so I it’s called healing a TD but
it’s really now people and and and what I point out both these
books and and this is again not unique to me read the right reasons Robert Dilts or
or ROBERT J Richard Bandler John render any a you
know the the a connery Andreas I mean there’s there’s
some really good stuff out there is that anxiety tends to be a future
centered disorder and depression tends to be a
past centered disorder in other words people who
experience depression chronically are constantly remembering past events for which they feel chain typically
shame but you know some someone in the dark
emotions associated with the past they may not even remember specifically
what the event is but they but they’re there’s something
there’s something there that that keeps pulling them back and it
really needs to be treated as if it was PTSD amenity kit can be treated using
bilateral therapies or you know cognitive behavioral therapy
associated with pharmaceuticals when I or even without
pharmaceuticals on varieties but it’s basically a person
constantly revisit in their past and so for many people just that understanding is enough for them to get past the
depression because they learn how to live in the present living in the present is and if you want
more on this lookup mindfulness or the possum as the the Indian where
the Hindi word for it but the passenger train mindfulness
training is learning to live in the present and there’s a very simple
exercise did not merit sons wife came up with for actually going to sleep but it’s a great exercise Ford simply
becoming president in the here and now which cuts the anchor to the past and and and diminishes or in many cases ends clinical depression and that is to
simply come to the moment in the wake up to the moment is by notice seen says different senses in a in a circular
fashion in a in a bring repeating fashion she
knows what you’re seeing right now as the callers knows the brightness
knows the shape of things notice what your scene and the notice
what you’re hearing sound of my voice the space between the
words the Chintan ality the other sounds in
the room or wherever you may be just noticed the
seve sound that you live in and the notice what you’re feeling are
you shoes tight are you sit him to feel the weight of
your body on your butt or are you laying down were everywhere wherever you may be notice the feelings the sensations in
your body what we’re doing is we’re caught musicals modality ships were going
through the sensory modalities is basically six-a and notice what you smelling right now
notice what your tasty the what’s in your mouth and
notice your sense a balance the vestibular system your inner here
yet another is your relationship to vertical and horizontal those the sixth sense is that we have
that we have direct access to it immediately notice and then just go back to noticing what
you’re seeing and go through them and Betty berry Ericsson straz technique was
to go through these things three times if you do that as you’re laying in bed
trying to fall asleep you will fall asleep you put yourself into a hypnotic trance
essentially but if you just do it once while you’re here now right now it brings you to the
present there’s nothing I know I love and I and
I learned this the the first time I learned this it was
at a aid Soto Zen Center in Atlanta Georgia where Louise I used to go every Sunday
and we would set for half hour and I mean literally just sit facing a
wall all around a room everybody sitting on a question facing the wall and you
sit there silently for half hour with your eyes open looking down your
nose at whatever happens beyond that was a Stonewall and just notice and stuff comes up in
your brain and the guy who taught me how to do this he said the first thing you
want to do before you said is you want to become president and to become president what you do is
knows what you see knows what you’re hearing knows what you’re feeling knows what you’re smelling and tasting
notice your relationship to the room and just essentially say to yourself I
am here now and constantly try to keep coming back
to that every time your mind wanders off into some thought train about you know
what’s going to happen so so depression is when the past
intrudes anxieties when the future intrudes anxiety is when people imagine a
horrible future and they imagine it in the present and solely the solution for anxiety is
essentially the same as it is pretty fresh which is become president and then if there is something in the
past or something in the future that is you know a real trigger you can
deal with it with bilateral Hermes even deal with it with a variety
of wines and psychotherapy and and some people have to deal with it
with psychedelics will you’re listening to the Thom
Hartmann program


12 thoughts on “Using NLP to Deal With PTSD, Anxiety & Depression

  1. I really appreciate this video. I am someone who is constantly racked with guilt, grief and sorrow about the past and contemplating in horror what I've convinced myself can only be a horrible future. I punish myself often for no reason, and when there is a reason, it's not remotely proportionate. I think that's part of why my mental health team keeps me under monitor so strictly (I was nearly committed this month), because when I get isolated I can't bounce my thoughts off of others and come to know what I'm doing to myself. At the time it all seems fair and proportionate, even though it's really the depression talking.

    I'm bipolar II with anxiety disorder and OCD. These all seem to bleed into each other when it comes to worry and obsession. After an extended period with no treatment and years of non-compliance, this month I've been put on new medications and am seeing a psychiatrist regularly. While I am putting hope in the "holistic" plan my medical team is building with me, I am interested in NLP as a possible adjunct. And the idea of being present or mindful is something I've read in Edward Hallowell's book "Worry", which I think is required reading for anyone with worry stemming from any of these conditions. It has helped me understand myself so much better. 

    Thank you again for clipping this and posting it on the YouTube channel. 

  2. Thank you so much for this Thom. I've read Kabat-Zinn and try to practice mindfulness, but the way you put all of this together is brilliant and enlightening!

  3. This is something new in learning for me.for me with why I wake up with horror on my mind.

  4. I thought this would be instructional, as opposed to a lecture….
    this wasn't helpful . Most people seeking videos like this sought cure + help

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  6. that's funny, for me it's the first time seeing you, before that I heard sometimes your podcast [mp3] I downloaded a few years ago

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